Comments on: wikis and anarchism? http://www.unet.fi/fransblog/2006/10/23/wikis-and-anarchism/ first thoughts, last train (frans mäyrä's personal weblog) Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:45:34 +0200 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: frans http://www.unet.fi/fransblog/2006/10/23/wikis-and-anarchism/comment-page-1/#comment-1170 frans Sat, 02 Dec 2006 08:09:23 +0000 http://www.unet.fi/fransblog/2006/10/23/wikis-and-anarchism/#comment-1170 Hayduke, thanks for your comment. I totally agree, and it was also interesting to visit your pages and read the essays on anarchism. The problem is that the popular image of anarchism today at least here in Finland is dominated by the violent extremists who seem to be interested in attacking imperialism by destroying private property, rather than by committing into visible, constructive acts of alternative social organisation (whatever those would be). That wikis needs to be protected, that common space needs to be protected, that there needs to be rules, even if the rules can be deeply different from those that underlie contemporary society, that I believe. Hayduke, thanks for your comment. I totally agree, and it was also interesting to visit your pages and read the essays on anarchism. The problem is that the popular image of anarchism today at least here in Finland is dominated by the violent extremists who seem to be interested in attacking imperialism by destroying private property, rather than by committing into visible, constructive acts of alternative social organisation (whatever those would be). That wikis needs to be protected, that common space needs to be protected, that there needs to be rules, even if the rules can be deeply different from those that underlie contemporary society, that I believe.

]]> By: Hayduke http://www.unet.fi/fransblog/2006/10/23/wikis-and-anarchism/comment-page-1/#comment-1167 Hayduke Sat, 02 Dec 2006 04:36:04 +0000 http://www.unet.fi/fransblog/2006/10/23/wikis-and-anarchism/#comment-1167 I think what you're seeing here is runaway capitalism, not an uncaring anarchism. The aforementioned sex ads and such are not there because the authors of the wiki don't care. I suspect they were naive and did not put in place necessary safeguards to keep out the overhwleming ocean of sex-based internet spambots and web sites. In order to have an anarchism-based society, even if it exists only in cyberspace, one must start with certain requirements for membership in the society. Since the rules are what sets apart one society from another, the rules for an anarchist society must be established and enforced in order for the society to recognize and support itself, and maintain its distinction from other societies. Anarchism is not about no rules, its about no rulers. Hayduke I think what you’re seeing here is runaway capitalism, not an uncaring anarchism. The aforementioned sex ads and such are not there because the authors of the wiki don’t care. I suspect they were naive and did not put in place necessary safeguards to keep out the overhwleming ocean of sex-based internet spambots and web sites.

In order to have an anarchism-based society, even if it exists only in cyberspace, one must start with certain requirements for membership in the society. Since the rules are what sets apart one society from another, the rules for an anarchist society must be established and enforced in order for the society to recognize and support itself, and maintain its distinction from other societies. Anarchism is not about no rules, its about no rulers.

Hayduke

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